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Beyond the Big Screen

with Steve Guerra

The Dancer and The Devil – Stalin, Pandemics and Ballet

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Today we are joined by the authors of the book Dancer and the Devil: Stalin, Pavola and the Road to the Great Pandemic to talk about how the totalitarian communists regimes of the 20th and 21st centuries crushed not only art and culture, but very likely set the stage for even worse destruction.

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John O’Neill and Sarah C. Wynne

Maria Pavlova and The Dying Swan

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Thank you again for listening to Beyond the Big Screen podcast, where we talk about great movies and stories so great they should be movies Of course, a big thanks goes out to John O’Neill and Sarah Wynne. Links to learn more about John and Sarah’s book The Dancer and The Devil: Stalin, Pavlova and the Road to the Great Pandemic can be found at or in the Show Notes. Some of what you will hear in today’s episode could be labeled as controversial. I don’t agree with everything the authors’ said and I don’t disagree with everything they said. I appreciate their willingness to share their point of view with me and with you. I would love to hear what you think about this episode and any other episode you feel strongly about.
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June 23, 2022
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Steve Guerra is the host of the History of the Papacy Podcast, which began in 2013. In 2017, Steve began Beyond the Big Screen, a podcast which delves into the fascinating stories behind films through lively interviews.
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