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Before Orion, Myths and Heroes

March 31, 2022
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Title: Before Orion, Myths and Heroes

Description: Today Steve is joined by author Bernie Taylor to talk about his book, Before Orion. Bernie leads us through a discussion of the origin of myths, the human psyche and the birth of heroes.

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Bernie Taylor, author of Before Orion

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[00:00:00] this is beyond the big screen podcast with your host, Steve Guerra. Thank you so much for joining us again today, we are talking with author, Bernie Taylor, about his new book before Orion. Bernie Taylor is an independent naturalist and author before Orion finding the face of the hero of 2017 and biological time published in 2004.
His research explores the mythological connections and biological knowledge among prehistoric indigenous and ancient peoples. We will be discussing how the hero's journey will be used in popular culture and in films, especially in the movie star wars. Thank you so much for joining us today. Bernie Stephen, thanks for having me on the show.
And I believe that the [00:01:00] story of this hero's journey is one that we all traveled. Now Bernie, can you just tell us a little bit about yourself for your background? Sure. I'll kind of tell you how I fell into this. I wrote the previous book biological time, which was about how plants and animals know when to do things.
How's a salmon known when the migrant river. The salmon node to come together, spawn how to geese know when to migrate and so on. It was a book about biological clocks. And then I asked myself the question, well, if someone must have known this before. And so I looked at a hunter gatherers. In fact, they have it in their calendars as well.
Ancient peoples from the Mediterranean, the biological clocks was how they found their food because they didn't have Costcos the niceties that we have in our modern time. And when I was working on that, There was an image from Lusko, which the cave in France from about 17,000 years ago. And this image is of a mega loss serous.
A mega losses is like a huge elk, but just bigger and bigger rack and all that [00:02:00] sort of stuff. And this, this mega loss versus blowing out. So we can tell it by that has a huge rack. It's in the fall, it's running condition and it's blown steam out it's in the morning. So we kind of have a lot about time and place in that.
And under that Meg Gloucester's with the blowing out the steam, it's got 13 days. And I, I looked at that concept as it relates to the how the, um, large Angela Institute, deer, elk, how they drop their antlers and how they come together to run and an all the timing, all that sort of stuff. And it fit how hunter gatherers in native Americans targeted the deer.
And the elk was exactly the same timing as these people are doing it 17,000 years. Which makes sense because the animals didn't change. Could you tell us a little bit why you wrote this particular book before Orion? I wrote bylaws time and I gave lots of presentations to the tribes, to scientific organizations, you kno

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Steve Guerra is a historian and podcaster who hosts three different shows. He started with the History of the Papacy Podcast in 2013. In 2017, Steve began Beyond the Big Screen, a podcast that delves into the fascinating stories behind films through lively interviews. His newest show, Organized Crime and Punishment, takes a deep dive into the roots, evolution, and impact of organized crime across different cultures and countries.
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