Beyond the Big Screen

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Title: Dredd – He is the Law Description: Today Steve is joined by frequent guest Erik Fogg of the Reconsider Podcast to talk about the 2012 incredible sci-fi action drama Dredd. We discuss what can be learned social movements and law enforcement in our times through this amazing film.Learn More About our Guest:Erik Fogg of the Reconsider PodcastReconsidermedia.orgYou can learn more about Beyond the Big Screen and subscribe at all these great places:www.atozhistorypage.comwww.beyondthebigscreen.comClick here to support Beyond the Big Screen!https://www.subscribestar.com/beyondthebigscreenhttps://www.patreon.com/beyondthebigscreenClick to Subscribe:https://www.spreaker.com/show/4926576/episodes/feedemail: steve@atozhistorypage.comwww.beyondthebigscreen.comhttps://www.patreon.com/historyofthepapacyParthenon Podcast Network Home:parthenonpodcast.comOn Social Media: https://www.facebook.com/groups/atozhistorypagehttps://www.facebook.com/HistoryOfThePapacyPodcasthttps://twitter.com/atozhistoryMusic Provided by:"Crossing the Chasm" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 Licensehttp://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/Image Credits:By May be found at the following website: IMP Awards, Fair use, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?curid=36617316Begin Transcript:Thank you again for listening to Beyond the Big Screen podcast. We are a member of the Parthenon Podcast network. Of course, a big thanks goes out to Erik of the Reconsider Podcast. Links to learn more about Erik and Reconsider can be found at reconsidermedia.org or in the Show Notes. You can now support beyond the big screen on Patreon and Subscribe Star. By joining on Patreon and Subscribe star, you help keep Beyond the Big Screen going and get many great benefits. Go to patreon dot com forward slash beyond the big screen or subscribe star dot com forward slash beyond the big screen dot com to learn more.Another way to support Beyond the big screen is to leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. These reviews really help me know what you think of the show and help other people learn about Beyond the Big screen. More about the Parthenon Podcast Network can be found at Parthenonpodcast.com. You can learn more about Beyond the Big Screen, great movies and stories so great they should be movies on various social media platforms by searching for A to z history. Links to all this and more can be found at beyond the big screen dot com. I thank you for joining me again, Beyond the big Screen.[00:00:00] I am very excited to welcome back Eric fog of the reconsider podcast to talk about the 2012 cult classic dread. Eric, how are you doing well? I'm better now because I'm talking about one of my favorite movies of all time. Uh, just, uh, people are in for a rare treat today. Th I, you know, I mean, look, last, last thing we put out was on pre-media.So you got to hear that you got to hear Eric and Steve rant about how crappy a movie it was. And we're just going to totally flip it on its head and talk about how like masterfully this bad boy is put together. So this movie at stars, Karl urban, Olivia Thoreau, B Lena Hadley. And domino Gleason, who was, he was magnificent and it, but what we'll get to that, let's slow down.Um, it's based on the comic book, judge dread, and there's no connection to the 1995 Stallone movie, judge Dredd. I personally liked judge dread, but it's a very different movie and they're not sequels or prequels in any way. Uh, now as always, we [00:01:00] feature plenty of spoilers. That's what we're calling with.That's what we're here for. You can listen to this episode and learn a lot about the movie, having never watched it. And you'll definitely want to watch this movie and listen to this episode several times, I guarantee it. You will. Uh, we will, and we definitely would love to hear what you have to think about this movie.So reach out to us on social media, send an email, whatever you want to do. The very high fly over of the basic setting of the movie, as it takes place in a dystopian future where the earth has been irradiated. And most of the planet's been left to uninhabitable. 800 ish million people are jammed into what's called a mega city one, which is basically the Northern half of the east coast of the United States.And this city has what you might call a crime problem. The city's police forces, the judges and the judges are more than just law enforcement. They are the law. Should we say that in Stallone style, [00:02:00] the law, and they really are. They are the law and this movie, it brings up so many different issues. And Erica, where should we start?I'll put that on you. Okay. Decide. Well, I think one of the things to emphasize in terms of the setup for this movie that makes some of the morality of the, of the judge read university and, uh, well, so interesting. I'll get to another point in a sec, is that, uh, at the very beginning of the movie, when, um, Karl urban dread is training, Olivia Thoreau, beat Anderson.So this is dread and Anderson. These are the two main characters when he's starting to train her. Um, he says, yeah, we got like, like we got like a million reports a day or something, and we can respond to no more than 6% of them. Right. And so like, they can't even like 94% of crime. They're just like, Nope, can't even, can't even do anything about it.And, um, and the crime is brutal. Like a lot. This isn't like, you know, this, the stuff that actually gets reported is the stuff that's bad enough to get reported. So there's a lot more crime beyond that that's not getting reported. [00:03:00] So, um, what that means is like, this is an extreme version of a society that.That's uh, gone like very, I dunno, like that's gone bad. And, um, what he talks about is like mega city is a it's cramped, it's poor. Um, it's basically a powder keg. And, uh, and so one of the big questions that is often being explored is this question of like Liberty. Um, Liberty and political rights. And like at what point do they erode right.At what point is it worth it to get rid of them? And, and we'll talk about that in a sec, but the other thing to note here is a lot of the stuff like this movie is so faithful to the, to the basics of judge dread. Um, cause judge, like the comic book gets weird. There's all sorts of like, uh, radiated monsters and like supervillains and stuff like that.Um, this is the basics. This is like, it's all humans. Um, it's just like exploring the society, [00:04:00] but it's very faithful to that. So a lot of what we'll be talking about is the mastery of the film. A lot of what we'll be talking about is the judge dread universe and decisions made in the judge at university, got translated to the movie.One of which is the city has a bit of a crime problem. And I thought that it was really cool how they laid that out in front. That it's only, it only answers 6,000 or 6% out of just an astronomical amount of calls that they get. Most of the movie is actually set inside of one location. They have these tower blocks that are basically cities inside of cities.Uh, there's a, there's a cool, uh, chase scene where we kind of learn a little bit about dread right up in the front and who these judges are. And they're how would you describe their, their law enforcement, uh, technique? Yeah, so the judges are very, the reason they are the law is they are judge, jury and executioner and police.So basically [00:05:00] what, what happened in this society where crime went through the roof is, you know, they basically said some rights and some like liberties are worth, are worth eliminating in order to improve as much as we can, our ability to give people the right to be safe from crime. And, um, and so we're going to give total dictatorial power to these judges and these judges have to be qualified, but there they are.Um, they are ruthless, they are merciless. And, um, and what happens is the, uh, you know, the mega city sends them out. Um, to deal with crimes and they get total authority, you know, it's like James Bond is licensed to kill. They, they have that license to sentence someone on the spot. Um, and so there's very much a who watches the Watchman question, um, because these folks have, you know, these judges have so much power.Um, and so little oversight that, that this is the dystopian part. That dystopian [00:06:00] part is not that the world is radiant. The dystopian part is the part is the way that the world decided to respond to or mega city one decide to respond to it's mega crime problem, which is, which is give certain people total authority over.Individual life and Liberty, um, to, to dispense with both of those, the little bit of the exposition that they get to before we go to the peach tree tower, where everything really unfolds is that dread is teamed up with a she's a wash out from the judge program, but they're giving her one more shot because she's has psychic abilities and may set up just a little bit.

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Title: History of Olympic Figure SkatingDescription: Figure skating is a mainstay of the Winter Olympic Games. It is sometimes controversial and always fascinating to watch. Today we are joined by Ryan Stevens of the Skate Guard Blog to discuss the past, present and future of Olympic figure skating.Learn More About our Guest:Ryan Stevens of the Skate Guard Bloghttp://skateguard1.blogspot.com/https://twitter.com/SkateGuardBlogYou can learn more about Beyond the Big Screen and subscribe at all these great places:www.atozhistorypage.comwww.beyondthebigscreen.comClick here to support Beyond the Big Screen!https://www.subscribestar.com/beyondthebigscreenhttps://www.patreon.com/beyondthebigscreenClick to Subscribe:https://www.spreaker.com/show/4926576/episodes/feedemail: steve@atozhistorypage.comwww.beyondthebigscreen.comhttps://www.patreon.com/historyofthepapacyParthenon Podcast Network Home:parthenonpodcast.comOn Social Media: https://www.facebook.com/groups/atozhistorypagehttps://www.facebook.com/HistoryOfThePapacyPodcasthttps://twitter.com/atozhistoryMusic Provided by:"Crossing the Chasm" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 Licensehttp://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/Image Credits:Begin Transcript:Thank you again for listening to Beyond the Big Screen podcast. We are a member of the Parthenon Podcast network. Of course, a big thanks goes out to Ryan Stevens of the Skate Guard Blog. Links to learn more about Ryan and Skate Guard can be found at http://skateguard1.blogspot.com/ or in the Show Notes. You can now support beyond the big screen on Patreon and Subscribe Star. By joining on Patreon and Subscribe star, you help keep Beyond the Big Screen going and get many great benefits. Go to patreon dot com forward slash beyond the big screen or subscribe star dot com forward slash beyond the big screen dot com to learn more.Another way to support Beyond the big screen is to leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. These reviews really help me know what you think of the show and help other people learn about Beyond the Big screen. More about the Parthenon Podcast Network can be found at Parthenonpodcast.com. You can learn more about Beyond the Big Screen, great movies and stories so great they should be movies on various social media platforms by searching for A to z history. Links to all this and more can be found at beyond the big screen dot com. I thank you for joining me again, Beyond the big Screen., [00:00:00] this is beyond the big screen podcast with your host, Steve Guerra. Welcome back to this very special bonus episode of beyond the big screen today, we aren't specifically talking about a movie, but instead we're revisiting a topic we discussed in a previous episode, figure skating through the movie.Hello London. The 23rd winter Olympics and PR Chang, South Korea are upon us. And I am very happy to be joined by Ryan Stevens of the skate guard blog to give us a little primer on Olympic figure skating. Thank you so much for joining us today, Ryan. Oh, you're most welcome. It's a pleasure to speak with you.Again, Ryan Stevens is a former competitive figure skater and C F S a skate Canada. Judge. He's been writing about figure skating history since [00:01:00] 2013. Ryan has media credentials with skate Canada covering the 2016 Canadian tire national skating championships on Halifax, as well as conducting interviews with many of the top figure skater.Past and present. And in June, 2017, Ryan released a full length biography of British actress figure skater and dancer. Belita Jepson Turner, who is a contemporary of Sonja. Henie, who we discussed in the hello London episode, which will be linked to an MES in the show notes for this episode, as well as the links to escape.So I highly suggest you go back and listen to that episode because it was a lot of fun and very informative before we get rolling. Can you just tell us a little bit about yourself and your blog? Absolutely. So I'm based in Halifax, Nova Scotia. I'm here in Canada. Um, for those of you that are down in the states.[00:02:00] And, uh, I write about skating history all around the world and I kind of bounce a little bit. I bounced around a little bit. I released three blogs a week covering a whole range of topics, everything from, um, How skating might've developed in a certain country to a biography of a skater to look back at an event task.So we just kind of bumped, uh, bumped around a little bit. And, uh, it's really a lot of fun. Yeah. That sounds like it, it gives you a lot of avenues to discover and explore different areas of the. Absolutely. Now, can you just give us maybe a little bit of history or context to figure skating as an Olympic sport?Certainly. So the first time that figure skating was actually included in the Olympic games was [00:03:00] in 1908. It was included in the summer Olympic games in London, England, and, uh, There were three categories, uh, pardon me, four categories. Uh, there were men's and women's single skating pair skating and a category that was only ever held at that first Olympics called special figures where skaters would trace out, uh, very intricate designs on the ice.Uh, they created themselves and that was only held at the 1908 Olympics. Um, The figure skating was included in the 1920 summer Olympics as well. And it was first included in the winter Olympics in 1924. And it's been probably the most popular if not, um, one of the most popular, but I like to think the most popular sport in the winter Olympics.Um, [00:04:00] since then, uh, At winter Olympics, uh, in 2014 in Sochi Russia, a new event, uh, was at it. To, uh, the, a lot of figure skating events and that was a team event. And, uh, that's going to be contested again in Korea. And it's a really interesting and unique format that I think will bring, um, a lot of excitement to the.To the roster of competitions that everybody will be seeing, you've shown us how the events, some of the events have changed. There's some events that are no longer a part of Olympic figure skating. And then there's some events that have been added as a part of maybe the strategy of the game or how it's judged.How has that evolved over the course of the year, since the Olympics have started?[00:05:00] Well, um, maybe how more, so how, I guess it plays into judging, how has it changed from maybe more of a, um, like technically, maybe how has it changed? Well, technically it's changed in a lot of ways. Um, if you look at, so right now, uh, if you don't count this new team event and you take into account single scale, Pair skating and ice dancing, which was added to the Olympics, uh, in 1976 for the first time.Those are the, those are the four main disciplines men's and women's singles pairs and ice stamps. And all four of those disciplines have, uh, changed from. The change their formats from when they first started in the game. So in the single skating, uh, used to see school [00:06:00] figures where a skaters would skate out, would trace out, uh, set patterns on the ice and then free skating pairs getting started with just a free skate and ice dancing started with compulsory dances.Now you won't find school figures at all. And there's no figures in figure skating. Um, in single skating pairs, skating has had a short program at it and the compulsory dances are gone from ice dance. And now you'll see a short dance and a free dance. So all four of the disciplines have changed their formats since they were first introduced to the games.And what you'll see are a. A short program and a free skate in the singles and the pairs, and then the short dance, the free dance. And I stamped now. So that might be, might be able to hook them using if you've ever seen the skating before, uh, in the games, [00:07:00] but basically in every discipline, you're going to see.All of the skaters twice. If they're going to come out once before I'm a short program or a short dance, and they're going to come out a second time, perform a free skate or a free dance. That's what I love. That's something like it's called figure skating, but the actual event that it, the name is based on isn't even a part of the event anymore.It is not. I mean, I, I think skating has evolved, uh, to such a technical level now that, um, it should almost be called, um, I don't know, ice jumping or something, but, um, but, uh, no, there are no more figures in figure skating, at least at the Olympics. Now, as you as a professional and are fishy and Otto and somebody who's.Into skating and figure skating. What are some of the high points you think, um, [00:08:00] that you've seen in previous Olympics? Oh my goodness. It's too numerous to even mention Amy. One of, one of my favorite and Olympic memories, uh, was from the 1988 Olympic games in Calgary, Alberta. When Elizabeth Manley, uh, she wasn't.Even expect it to be one of the challengers for the top two spots at all. And she'd gone through so much in the years leading up to deal with the games. Um, and. It was supposed to be a showdown between, uh, an American skater, Debbie Thomas, and, uh, an east German skater, calorie and Yvette. And it was called the battle of the Carmens because both skaters were skating to music from B's A's Carmen and.Elizabeth man. We came out of nowhere. I had the free skate of her life, [00:09:00] uh, or the standing ovation brought the house down and she won the, she didn't win the gold medal, but she wasn't a free skate. And, um, that, that moment stands out in my mind as being one of them. The biggest, uh, I don't know, biggest Olympic moments that I've ever seen and another would definitely be, um, Jayden's horrible.

Title: Hello Olympics, Hello LondonDescription: Today we talk with Ryan Stevens of the Skate Guard Blog about the fascinating movie Hello London. This movie captures the excitement of early figure skating and the burgeoning celebrity culture in film and sports.Learn More About our Guest:Ryan Stevens of the Skate Guard Bloghttp://skateguard1.blogspot.com/https://twitter.com/SkateGuardBlogYou can learn more about Beyond the Big Screen and subscribe at all these great places:www.atozhistorypage.comwww.beyondthebigscreen.comClick here to support Beyond the Big Screen!https://www.subscribestar.com/beyondthebigscreenhttps://www.patreon.com/beyondthebigscreenClick to Subscribe:https://www.spreaker.com/show/4926576/episodes/feedemail: steve@atozhistorypage.comwww.beyondthebigscreen.comhttps://www.patreon.com/historyofthepapacyParthenon Podcast Network Home:parthenonpodcast.comOn Social Media: https://www.facebook.com/groups/atozhistorypagehttps://www.facebook.com/HistoryOfThePapacyPodcasthttps://twitter.com/atozhistoryMusic Provided by:"Crossing the Chasm" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 Licensehttp://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/Image Credits:Begin Transcript:Thank you again for listening to Beyond the Big Screen podcast. We are a member of the Parthenon Podcast network. Of course, a big thanks goes out to Ryan Stevens of the Skate Guard Blog. Links to learn more about Ryan and Skate Guard can be found at http://skateguard1.blogspot.com/ or in the Show Notes. You can now support beyond the big screen on Patreon and Subscribe Star. By joining on Patreon and Subscribe star, you help keep Beyond the Big Screen going and get many great benefits. Go to patreon dot com forward slash beyond the big screen or subscribe star dot com forward slash beyond the big screen dot com to learn more.Another way to support Beyond the big screen is to leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. These reviews really help me know what you think of the show and help other people learn about Beyond the Big screen. More about the Parthenon Podcast Network can be found at Parthenonpodcast.com. You can learn more about Beyond the Big Screen, great movies and stories so great they should be movies on various social media platforms by searching for A to z history. Links to all this and more can be found at beyond the big screen dot com. I thank you for joining me again, Beyond the big Screen., [00:00:00] this is beyond the big screen podcast with your host, Steve Guerra. Thank you again for joining us today on beyond the big screen. And we're here to discuss today. The 1958 fictionalized documentary called hello London, alternatively known as London calling. We will discuss the evolution. Figure skating over the course of the 20th century, the famous figure, skaters, Sonja Henie and the complex sport and industry of figure skating.I'm very happy today to be joined by Ryan Stevens to discuss this interesting production. Thanks for joining us, Ryan. Ryan Stevens as a former competitive figure skater and C F S a skate Canada judge. [00:01:00] He has been writing about figure skating since 2013. Ryan has had media credentials with skate Canada covering the 2016 Canadian tire national skating championship and Halifax as well as conducting interviews with many top figure skaters past and present in June, 2017, Ryan released a full length biography of British actress, figure skater and dancing.Belita Jepson Turner, a contemporary and perceived rival of Sonja. Henie who we're going to talk a lot about today. Ryan's blog skate guard can be found at skate guard, one.blogspot.ca and in the show notes I'll, uh, briefly just. Discuss the production details. It was a limited release in 1958. The film was never officially widely released in the United States.And as a runtime of 78 minutes. [00:02:00] And as I said, it was released in the UK in 1960 as London calling Sonja Henie, which we'll talk about more as well, was a very popular actress in about the middle part of the previous century. And this was her last film. Uh, Ryan, maybe you can give us a little bit of background on this film and how it ties into early and mid.20th century figure skating. Well, I'll go. London was really, it was an attempt at a comeback for Sonja Henie. She'd been after turning professional, uh, and coming to America in 1936 after winning her third Olympic gold medal. Uh, she was signed with 20th century Fox and she produced these very lavish, uh, skating, driven, uh, films that were huge box office hits, but over after the war, [00:03:00] and as, as, as the case with many, um, actresses that he'd look at, um, an actress like Esther Williams, who was, uh, she was a swimmer.So. These kind of vehicles, uh, that are driven by a specialty such as swimming or skating. Obviously the skaters that were in the skating movies, they were able to sustain that fame for a certain level of time and it's windled off. And that kind of happened with Sonia a little bit. And at the time she was doing shows at the center theater in New York and touring with her own ice reveal.So when hello, Came out. It was an attempt at a comeback of sorts for her in the film world. She was going to do a planning to do a series of films where she visited different cities. So this one was, was based around her tour, going to London. And then she was, you know, looking at doing hello, Paris. Hello?Uh, [00:04:00] St. Marets hello, Oslo. Just know different European cities in capitals around the world. And kind of tying in the stars, uh, musical and theatrical stars from the country that she visited. So unfortunately that didn't happen. This ended up being her last film, but it's certainly is a really wonderful example of how skating carnival.Like hotel shows and carnival style productions and touring productions were thriving during that. And it spoke more to the road show aspect of skating, a professional skating then of the twat driven stories that were in her other films. Yeah. But I thought it was a really cool idea, especially when, uh, before we were, when we were planning this, that this was a promotional piece that probably worked really well for her skating enterprise, [00:05:00] as well as a tourism type show, almost like a Prado travel channel show.Yeah. Yeah. I'd agree with that. Definitely. Well, at the time, at the time in England, uh, these ice pantomimes were thriving, uh, which was quite interesting because in America it was all, it was all about these hotels shows and touring productions, but the ice pantomimes in England, uh, during the era, when this.We're released. They were almost like staged shows on ice where the skaters would lip sync along, uh, to prerecord it prerecorded voice tracks. So it was, yeah, it was really quite interesting because at the time skating was thriving in a different way in England, professional skating wise, and it wasn't a American.And I think that this was in a way Sonia's way of trying to get in on that Marquez. You use that term hotel show. Maybe you can tell us a [00:06:00] little bit more about what a hotel show was. Well, imagine going into a, a supper club or a, or a restaurant at a hotel being seated at a table to have your supper, to have a few cocktails and watching figure skating shoe.On a small tank of ice while you were having dinner or having a few drinks, uh, they would, these shows would have usually a live singer or two they'd have a small cost of skaters. And usually some novelty acts. They might have a juggler. They might have. Um, a physical comedian, something along those lines, but they were small variety shows, uh, centered around skating that you could watch while you were having supper.And they were huge in hotels across America, in, uh, the 19. Well, they actually started, uh, back before prohibition died out for some time, and then they made a comeback. And during the era that this film would have come out, they still would have [00:07:00] been thriving and. Oh, that sounds like a lot of fun actually.Yeah. What would it, what would it be? Is there a, an analogy to that today or did, uh, did they carry through at all to closer to our times? I mean, if you look at today, uh, skating has certainly changed, uh, on the professional side, there isn't a lot of it, unfortunately, um, There are still skating shows, uh, on cruise ships that people can watch.There are skating shows, um, that hits, uh, different, uh, Uh, theme parks, like for instance, Canada's Wonderland. I know they've had a nice show a before as well. So those kinds of things still go on, but not in the same scale as they did. Ice skating is a really interesting sport in that it has a really hyper-competitive world-class athletic element to it.But like you're saying, it also has this [00:08:00] entertainment element. Do those. Facets of the, of the sport or of the industry clash at all? I think they absolutely. If you look at the competitive side of figure skating today and how it's developed, um, they certainly clash quite a bit, um, in the 1990s, um, after the whole scandal with, uh, Nancy Kerrigan and Tonya Harding skating was absolutely huge.You couldn't turn on your television on a Saturday. Without having, uh, three different channels, having a professional, a professional competition or an ice show, um, that we're usually competing with competing with each other. And the market is so saturated that by the late nineties, um, perhaps early two thousands, it just absolutely went Kaboom.

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Title: The Hateful Eight, a Reinvented WesternDescription: Steve is joined again by Josh Cohen of the Unfiltered Podcast and Eyewitness History Podcast to talk about the 2015 Quentin Tarantino film, The Hateful Eight. We discuss how this movie is part western, part thriller, Agatha Christie mystery with a dash of Alfred Hitchcock. Learn More About our Guest:Josh Cohen of The Eyewitness History Podcast and Unfiltered PodcastUnfilteredpodcast.blogspot.comhttps://www.speakpipe.com/eyewitnesshistoryYou can learn more about Beyond the Big Screen and subscribe at all these great places:www.beyondthebigscreen.comClick to Subscribe:https://www.spreaker.com/show/4926576/episodes/feedemail: steve@atozhistorypage.comwww.beyondthebigscreen.comhttps://www.patreon.com/historyofthepapacyParthenon Podcast Network Home:parthenonpodcast.comOn Social Media: https://www.facebook.com/groups/atozhistorypagehttps://www.facebook.com/HistoryOfThePapacyPodcasthttps://twitter.com/atozhistoryMusic Provided by:"Crossing the Chasm" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 Licensehttp://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/Image Credits:By http://www.impawards.com/2015/hateful_eight_ver10.html, Fair use, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?curid=47218421Begin Transcript:Thank you again for listening to Beyond the Big Screen podcast. We are a member of the Parthenon Podcast network. Of course, a big thanks goes out to Josh Cohen host of the Unfiltered podcast and the upcoming Parthenon podcast, Eyewitness History Podcast. Josh is the content editor for the History on the net website. Links to learn more about Josh and the Unfiltered Podcast along with is new Eyewitness Podcast can be found at the unfilteredpodcast.blogspot.com or in the Show Notes.You can support beyond the big screen on Patreon and Subscribe Star. By joining on Patreon and Subscribe star, you help keep Beyond the Big Screen going and get many great benefits. Go to patreon dot com forward slash beyond the big screen or subscribe star dot com forward slash beyond the big screen dot com to learn more.Another way to support Beyond the big screen is to leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. These reviews really help me know what you think of the show and help other people learn about Beyond the Big screen. More about the Parthenon Podcast Network can be found at Parthenonpodcast.com. You can learn more about Beyond the Big Screen, great movies and stories so great they should be movies on various social media platforms by searching for A to z history. Links to all this and more can be found at beyond the big screen dot com. I thank you for joining me again, Beyond the big Screen.Steve: [00:00:00] it's driven by strong characters, plot twists, and as a warning, a great deal of violence. I think if you're at all familiar with Quentin Tarantino films, you have to realize there's violence in them. So I know I'm really excited to talk about this movie and I'm really excited to talk with Josh again.About Quentin Tarantino films. We're going to go through this whole filmography. So we'll, uh, we've started now. We're here at the hateful eight. Uh, just to get an overall view before we dive into the overview, what did you think about this movie in particular?Josh: Yeah, Well, first off, Steve, thanks for having me back. I had such a blast in our last. Our last podcast and I couldn't be happier that we're doing a string of these. Um, if it's, if it's Quinn, Terentino's Tino, I can always make the time. Um, yeah. W w when I thought of it, it probably won't be a surprise to you, uh, that I loved the movie, which did actually surprise me somewhat given the texture [00:01:00] of the movie itself.I I'm sure we'll talk about this The movie is set up very much like a play in a sense that there's only a few characters and there's only really one. Um, for, for the action to take place. And by and large, I tend to, despite smoothies, I'd only have one setting. I can never shake this feeling of being cheated.Um, I watched a horrible movie way back in the day called the boss's daughter, but Terry Reed and Ashton Kutcher. And that was the, it was one, one scene, basically the entire movie. And I'll never forget how cheated I felt. So I came into it prejudice, but of course, Quentin Tarantino, uh, healed me of that.Steve: Well, this is a part of the context too, in which I think for me what that one, that one setting was kind of a. Quaint, but it really threw me back to the Alfred Hitchcock, like rope where it's all, everything happens in that one room or two rooms and [00:02:00] the, and the apartment. And I thought that that was. A really fun way to do it.I thought it was for this format. It was engaging. I could see it. If it was an Ashton Kutcher movie, it might be a different stuff. And Tara Reed movie, it might be a different story. I don't recall seeing that, but I think that the way this was filmed, the setting and the, the whole concept, it, it worked.Josh: Well, Yeah.that's a really good point. I mean, if you watch the movie, um, he uses multiple cameras. Uh, obviously he does do the 70 millimeter and he creates depth in the scene with the characters. Um, you see the other characters in the background of. Camera's focused on major Marcus Warren for instance.Right. Um, but uh, I think he does enough tricks with the camera and with perspective to make you think that you're in multiple areas, uh, you could, you know, you're, you're watching, uh, uh, Tim Roth as Oswaldo. Mowbray do his thing while you're watching Walton, Goggins, uh, as the [00:03:00] sheriff, supposedly, maybe we'll talk, um, do do his thing in the corner and you can be a fool by thinking it wasn't occurring in the same way. Steve: So as usual, we'll get into specifics and plenty of spoilers in this conversation, but just to set the stage, this movie is a Western it's a, it's a Western, it's a mystery. It's a one setting play just to get us set up. Kurt Russell. He has a character named John, the hang man, Ruth. Who's a bounty hunter and he's traveling on a stage coach with his bounty.And this is the one scene, the stage coach traveling through the snow as the one piece. That's not set in this one building, but we'll get to that. He has as bounty, Daisy, Dom, or guru played by Jennifer, Jason. Ruth is in a hurry to get her to this fictional town of red rock Wyoming. In order to collect this $10,000 bounty and beat the blizzard.That's rolling in. As they're traveling, they run upon major [00:04:00] MarkWest Warren played by Samuel L. Jackson, who can, who stuck on the side of the road. He convinces Ruth to let him into the. Stage coach, because he also has three bounties who are dead, who he wants to bring to red rock. They finally set off again.They run into Chris Mannix as played by Walter Goggins. As Josh mentioned, who claims to be the new sheriff of red rock, they take him in as well. Finally, they stopped and Minnie's haberdashery. Traveler's rest of sword for refuge from this blizzard. And that's where things get interesting. There's a whole new set of character herders there for four or five, five comma off of the, the stagecoach.And then there's several other characters. We'll get into the details of that who are at many's have it. Ashery and this is. Well, this is particularly where the movie gets interesting because all sorts of unusual [00:05:00] alliances forum fall apart. And so, I mean really where to begin, I would say one place, um, where, where I thought it might be interesting to start is as a real Quintin Tarantino fanatic, you might say, how do you think that this one fits in with his larger body of work?As of this point in 2022, it's his. Second to last movie a once upon a time. And Hollywood's his latest. So this was the movie, just to previous to that. It came out in 2015. So he's had, um, at that 0.8 movies that he's produced and directed to that point. What do you, how do you think it fits in?Josh: Um, well, I mean, it was obviously critically, critically and commercially well-received. Uh, one thing that caught my eye when I, when I looked at the numbers, uh, was that it broke Terentino's streak of having, um, Movies that became as high as grossing. And I better give some context for that. Uh, he comes out with, uh, Inglorious [00:06:00] bastards to be followed by Django and chain.When Inglorious bastards came out, it was his highest grossing movie ever. It made the most money for, for him. That was his record. And then Django came out and it was the exact same thing that became his highest grossing painfully broke that streak. Um, and I, I can never quite shake this feeling. That's it's the one second.Uh, play that that may have caused an issue for audiences. I'm not quite sure as far as where it fits in. Um, as you point out, it's certainly genre, blending, uh, bending. Yeah. That'll work, uh, genre. Yeah. Blending or bending works. Um, uh, and one, wouldn't be watching a Tarantino movie if one wasn't sufficiently confused of what the genre was.Um, and, uh, yeah, we see Tarantino, uh, play a little bit further with his, that bounty hunter fetish that we were talking about in the, in the last podcast, starting with Django, moving through April eight and obviously ending at one point in?time in home. [00:07:00] Steve: Maybe let's since it is this one setting play essentially at Minnie's haberdashery, maybe explain that one setting to us because that setting is it. The character in and of itself.Josh: Yeah, Steve, you took the words out of my mouth, the setting and the environment. So it's the haberdashery in the storm, the storm that in crouches, on, on the haberdashery, like. This monster, it almost has a presence in and of itself. Um, well the habit ashtray as you point out is, is a refuge from the storm for all of these characters.

Title: Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, Quentin Tarantino and a Hollywood Fairy TaleDescription: Today we talk with podcaster and fellow Parthenon Podcast member, Josh Cohen, about the 2019 Quentin Tarantino film, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. We discuss the various genres this movie tackles and much more.Learn More About our Guest:Josh Cohen of The Eyewitness History Podcast and Unfiltered PodcastUnfilteredpodcast.blogspot.comhttps://www.spreaker.com/show/eyewitness-historyYou can learn more about Beyond the Big Screen and subscribe at all these great places:www.beyondthebigscreen.comClick to Subscribe:https://www.spreaker.com/show/4926576/episodes/feedemail: steve@atozhistorypage.comwww.beyondthebigscreen.comhttps://www.patreon.com/historyofthepapacyParthenon Podcast Network Home:parthenonpodcast.comOn Social Media: https://www.facebook.com/groups/atozhistorypagehttps://www.facebook.com/HistoryOfThePapacyPodcasthttps://twitter.com/atozhistoryMusic Provided by:"Crossing the Chasm" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 Licensehttp://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/Image Credits:By IMP Awards, Fair use, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?curid=60263751Begin Transcript:Thank you again for listening to Beyond the Big Screen podcast. We are a member of the Parthenon Podcast network. Of course, a big thanks goes out to Josh Cohen of the Eyewitness History Podcast. Josh interviews luminaries from various fields, as well as expanding on various cultural and social topics. He has interviewed people as varied as Washington Free Beacon founder Matthew Continetti, Roger Rabbit creator Gary K. Wolf, and best-selling singer Tal Bachman. Links to learn more about Josh and the Eyewitness History Podcast can be found at ###### or in the Show Notes.A great way to support Beyond the big screen is to leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. These reviews really help me know what you think of the show and help other people learn about Beyond the Big screen. More about the Parthenon Podcast Network can be found at Parthenonpodcast.com. You can learn more about Beyond the Big Screen, great movies and stories so great they should be movies on Facebook and Twitter by searching for A to z history. You can contact me there or just send an email to steve at a to z history page dot com. Links to all this and more can be found at beyond the big screen dot com. I thank you for joining me again, Beyond the big Screen.[00:00:00] Today, we are going to talk about the incredible 2019 Quintin Tarantino film. Once upon a time in Hollywood. Josh, are you excited to talk about this movie? I am extremely excited. I have been a Tarantino’s fanatic basically since reservoir dogs came out. And once upon a time in Hollywood, I've probably watched more repeatedly than, than any other Tarantino movie.So I'm stoked. Now, once upon a time in Hollywood, it's a difficult to place in an exact genre box. It's a historical film. It's alternative history. It's an action drama. It's a fairy tale of sorts. It stars, Brad Pitt, Leonardo DiCaprio, Margot, Robbie, Timothy Olifant LPAA Chino, and much, much, much, much more.And as I always say, what these people with these films to people is an one we review them on beyond the big screen, at least that we're giving spoilers. So if you don't want spoilers, I suggest watch the [00:01:00] movie, listen to this episode, watch the movie, but you can do it in any order you want. Now going into this movie, you were, you're a Quentin Tarantino fanatic.What was your, kind of your expectations going into this movie? Yeah. Well, well, first off, , Steve, a quick word of agreement for you. , it's absolutely a genre bending film. Therefore it fits quite nicely into the coterie of queen. Filmography, , his films are famously hard to, to really diagnose with the genre., my expectations was my understanding was it was going to be something a backstory of the Tate murders and that we were going to be seeing a lot of exposure to the Manson family. We're going to see Sharon Tate in her element, Roman Polanski in his element. And of course, Jay Sebring, , hardly tagging along.That was my expectation going into it. , what I got. Quite a bit more than that. , yes, we do see the Manson family and, and the family plan skied sprinkled throughout the film, but they're by no means at the forefront. , the main plot of the film really is that it's, , it's an end of what we call the [00:02:00] golden age of cinema.It's set in Los Angeles, 1969. And it follows the paths of, , actor, Rick Dalton and stuntman cliff. , cliff booth of course played by Brad Pitt and Rick Dalton played by Leonardo DiCaprio. And there's something of an, , allegory or a historical cousin that it might have in the form of the partnership between the great Burt Reynolds and his stunt man, Hal Needham.They worked something together for 30 years. So, , that's based on what that partnership is based around Rick Dalton. Coming to terms with, , having already started on a very popular show called bounty law is coming to terms with sort of the sunset of his career. Along with the end of the golden age of cinema, he's sort of at a crossroads and he feels himself fading into, into the background.He's getting less and less juicy roles and he's finding himself perennially cast as the head. , by the networks and this is Adam braided, a great deal in a conversation with, , that he has without Pachino. , , Marvin spores, Al Pacino plays an [00:03:00] agent named Morgan scores and they have this discussion.And then, , of course his stuntman cliff booth played by Brad Pitt. , it follows. The goings on, in their lives throughout this movie. Yeah, it's interesting. When I walked into this movie, I mean, I've watched as many, I've watched a Tarantino movies, pulp fiction, and those movies, this one, now I walked into it with no background whatsoever.It was just a Friday night and we're , oh, let's pop on a movie. People are talking about this movie and it just unfolded and it, what is this movie? And I think that that is an interesting way to go into the movie with zero expectations, because I've never seen it on a movie unfold this movie does.Yeah, without question. , I, I went in and watched it and for at least half the film, I kept asking myself, where is Sharon? Where is Sharon? Where is Plansky? And as I said earlier, , they're sprinkled throughout the film, but so they're by no means non-existent, , but [00:04:00] they're always in sort of quick, almost throwaway scenes., and they don't really delve into, I guess, the deepest. With them is when, , , we, the audience catch up with them when they're at the Playboy mansion, , for a party and Steve McQueen, , I forget the name of the actor that plays Steve McQueen, but he basically talks to the audience through the relationship between Jay Sebring, Roman Polanski, and, and of course, Sharon Tate.And yeah, I thought it was a phenomenal way of, of introducing us, , as I say, the two booth and Dalton. Yeah. If I'm not mistaken, I don't think that the person who plays Roman Polanski, he might not even have a lie. Are very, , very, very few lines. If he does it all, what we'll tell you this, just the fact that I even have to think about it probably means he, he, he, , didn't have much to say., yeah, I actually. Oh, th there is one where he, , he he's thrown something to his dog and he is cursing at his dog getting his morning coffee. Yeah. Bring, definitely gets a lot more lines than Roman [00:05:00] Polanski dot, which is ironic because I don't know about you, Steve, but I had no idea what J C ring was., prior I knew something was wrong with plans to give them. Let's call them exploits. Right. And of course, Rosemary's baby and so forth, but yeah, I knew nothing about JC brown. Yeah. I can't say I ever, I maybe if I had read a book at some point during the Manson family, maybe I, I probably would have bred him, but it wasn't been one of the names that really stuck in my mind, , at, at the least now some of these, , the it, since it does straddle the line between fiction and.Has history. So most of the people are historical except for booth and Dalton, man. , yeah, without question, , obviously Manson was a, is a real figure and Plansky and Tate and so forth. , all the characters, , that were shown, , outside of Morgan Haley's character, all the characters that were shown at Spahn ranch, which I'm sure we'll get into, , our real figures as far as I, I know, I [00:06:00] know, I know Tex was obviously squeaky from., and, , , I believe maybe we can have one of our viewers have fact check me on this, but I believe that Dakota Fanning's character, , the ride head, , was a real character as well. You talking about blurring and, and I'd probably classify the movie before anything else. As a historical fiction prep, you could call it.You could make the case that it's a buddy film, but it's a historical fiction film following the long line of Tarantino movies that we've seen starting from Inglorious bastards and moving through to Django, Unchained, and the hate blade with everything with cliff booth, he just did. I don't know if they presented.I am almost as a little slimy, a little smarmy, especially since that's hanging over his head, that he may have killed his wife, but he seems a moral character the whole time without question. I mean, a good argument could be made. He was the most moral character in the movie. I mean, as you point out, , Steve, Rick Dalton's by no means a bad [00:07:00] guy, but you know, clearly an alcoholic clearly.How has the capacity to be mean cliff booth?

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