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An Inglorious BonusYou can learn more about Beyond the Big Screen and subscribe at all these great places:www.atozhistorypage.comwww.beyondthebigscreen.comClick here to support Beyond the Big Screen!https://www.subscribestar.com/beyondthebigscreenhttps://www.patreon.com/beyondthebigscreenClick to Subscribe:https://www.spreaker.com/show/4926576/episodes/feedemail: steve@atozhistorypage.comwww.beyondthebigscreen.comhttps://www.patreon.com/historyofthepapacyParthenon Podcast Network Home:parthenonpodcast.comOn Social Media: https://www.facebook.com/groups/atozhistorypagehttps://www.facebook.com/HistoryOfThePapacyPodcasthttps://twitter.com/atozhistoryMusic Provided by:"Crossing the Chasm" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 Licensehttp://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/Today we have a bonus episode from a conversation I had with fellow Parthenon podcast network member Josh Cohen. Josh in the host of the Eyewitness History podcast. In this episode, we discuss some of the interesting aspects of Quinten Tarantino’s first foray in the historical fiction genre in his alternative World War 2 film, Inglorious Basterds. If you join up on Patreon, you will get more exclusive bonus content like this. I hope you enjoy and definitely subscribe so you can get all the new full episodes. If you want to learn more, you can head over to beyond the big screen dot com. You can support beyond the big screen on Patreon. By joining on Patreon, you help keep Beyond the Big Screen sustainable for the future and you get many great benefits. Benefits include advertisement free content, bonus content and early access. The bonus content is great too. I will feature outtakes from episodes and live streaming episodes. If you join at the Executive producer level, you will become just that, an Executive Producer of Beyond the Big screen. You will be able to develop ideas for upcoming episodes, help find great guests and of course have your name mentioned at the beginning or end of each episode. You won’t be just a supporter, you will be a key member of the team. Go to patreon dot com forward slash beyond the big screen or subscribe star dot com forward slash beyond the big screen dot com to learn more.If you have any questions, comments or feedback, send me an email to steve at a to z history page dot com or follow us on social media by searching for a to z history. I will see you next time, beyond the big screen.[00:00:00] did they say in the film one that's approximately takes place. That first scene they say happens in 1941 where, uh, we'll meet him. Eventually. Hons Londa played by the wonderful Christoph waltz that was in 1941. Shoshana, the one of the lead characters, she looks young there, but I don't think they say how much time passed between when that scene happens.And then rains puts together the Inglorious bastards. Do they say it? Not, not as I recall, maybe our viewers can, can fact check the two of us on this, but I, I believe it's generally presumed that at least a few years past, because Shoshana goes from being. Effectively a, a refugee, a Jew, a Jewish person on, on the, on the lamb, um, to becoming, uh, an owner of a [00:01:00] theater.Um, and the way she gets us theater is somewhat mysterious. She says that it, uh, it was left to her by her on and her uncle, but it must be remembered that she's giving this as a story to, um, uh, Fredericks. Uh, a German, a German officer, in fact, in a war hero, which I'm sure we'll, we'll get into. Um, and so it's, it's tough to tell how much of that should really be believed.And it must have been presumably before the D-Day invasion in 1944, because Francis fell occupied by the Germans. So at some time in between 1941 and 19, mid, 1944, Right. That was where I placed it. That, that was the one thing I knew since it was still occupied. France was that, uh, that was that it was before D-Day.So it hadn't been before any real, true blue, serious involvement by the, by, by, uh, us Americans. I'll take a moment to just even reel it back further to what did you think [00:02:00] that very first scene was powerful where Londa, like you say, that Londa is. As polite. And as somebody, I don't know where I saw this or read this, but it said even the devil can have an angelic glow or something like that.But so even somebody who's completely evil to the core can appear to be good. And on every, you know, how polite he was and how he, what his real point there is to find the Jews who have escaped. No, it was that there, that the farmer is holding or it's hiding Jews. And as farm stad, he knows it. The farmer knows.He knows that, and Londa is just going to keep giving them enough rope to hang himself with it. And he finally gives, uh, the farmer, the choice either we're going to kill your whole family and we're still going to kill them. And to just to put [00:03:00] that, that choice on. Film as your first thing that you see is really gut wrenching.Yeah. Not much to argue with there. Um, yeah. W I want to talk about that scene if we may, um, that opening scene was phenomenal, so I'm not even kidding. I remember seeing it in theaters. You will recall the first, like 10, 15 minutes of that movie are in French. I mean, it's on for a good little while before they speak a word of English.And I'm not kidding. When I, when I first saw it in theaters, I thought they put the wrong reel of film into the projector. Well, because it was, so it just wasn't what you were expecting, you know? And, and you're right. Uh, hands-on that comes up, you know, is this the property of Mr. LA petite? It's a pleasure to meet you Michelle Appetit.And he shakes his hand and, and, you know, may mean we, um, w may you please invite me in your house when you have a discussion? Uh, stringing them along and in this way, um, asks and excuse me, asks for milk, uh, which becomes a bit of a recurring theme, [00:04:00] uh, for, for, for Landa and, uh, A very interesting analogy, metaphor, whatever we want, whatever we want to call it between a squirrel and a rat and why you hate you find one repulsive and you don't know why and you like the other, and you don't know why when they both actually look fairly similar and he uses this analogy for why.Might hate the Jews, which I thought was very interesting, uh, obviously, uh, for, for the, the goofballs out there, obviously I'm not agreeing with him. Um, but it was a very interesting turn-taking way of putting that across. And then at the very end. He just goes in for the kill and it's just a body blow. I mean, uh, you're sheltering the enemies of the state, or you're not, you're hiding them underneath the floorboards, aren't you?And it just like just goes right there and the way the music comes in, uh, uh, uh, towards the end where he ushers in what they think. [00:05:00] Um, the Dreyfus is, uh, what the Dreyfus is think are the, um, the women, but they're actually the Nazi officers. It was. Um, and by the way, that's where we meet a manual menu as well.Um, she's the one person that gets away from this, the slaughter, uh, and she, and she runs. Then we next see her as the owner of the, of the theater bond that lets her get away. Yes. He hunted, he, he sees her, he could have shot her or as sent out the, um, other guards or whatever. To go catch her and he doesn't.Why doesn't he? Yeah, it's a very interesting choice. Um, he delights in the slaughter of his family of, excuse me. He delights in the slot of her family. Um, and yeah, she's running in an open field. She's in an open target. Uh, you got. Londa a soldier like him could have made that shot. Has him, has her literally in his sights, leaves the gun off and says Overwatch or Shanna.Why doesn't he [00:06:00] pull that trigger? Um, I don't have an answer for that. Uh, other than, other than it's an appealed, his statistics. Because what will, because one thing about him is, uh, is I wonder if his sadism and his psychopathy overrules, everything else, um, uh, about his, his job, because his job surely would have been to kill her.Yeah. But then he has the opportunity, a couple of opportunities to kill her and he keeps, or he could have called her out when they were meeting with, um, what's a gerbils and the cafe they could have, he could have called her out. There was another opportunity to, I almost wonder. If he somehow planned it, that she would take over the theater, she would be, he would somehow the movie would get changed from the big theater and Paris to the small one.What if he was behind the whole [00:07:00] plot, knowing that the allies are going to win? 'cause that's what we see at the end. He makes the deal. He knows that the bastards could, he, it was his call essentially to set up forward the plan that winds up killing Hitler and girls and, um, oh, Boring and Gorman. Yeah.He's the one who it was, he could have said yes or no at any point. And he's the one who got it actually done. I wonder if he was actually the driving force behind that whole plan. Now that's extremely interesting. Uh, cause yeah, I mean, uh, I I'll, I'll call Linda's words back to you. Um, he even says, you know, if I don't pick up this phone and, and alert the theater it's as if I'm causing Hitler's death, even more than yourselves and addressing, uh, uh, Brad Pitt as, as all-terrain and BJ Novak as the.Uh, you'd have edge. Well, no, that's very interesting because yeah, I mean, he, granted he [00:08:00] gets carved up, uh, at the end, but he makes off pretty good. Um, he kind of makes out like abandoned the scar side. Um, that's very interesting. I wonder if he could have been the mastermind, but. Maybe, maybe he knew the on and the uncle, maybe that's

Today I am joined by Simon Heffer author of: High Minds: The Victorians and the Birth of Modern Britain. Simon will walk us through the early development of the Victorian mindset and how the Victorians impacted British, American and World history.Learn More About our Guest:Simon Heffer author of: High Minds: The Victorians and the Birth of Modern Britainhttps://www.simonandschuster.com/books/High-Minds/Simon-Heffer/9781643139173You can learn more about Beyond the Big Screen and subscribe at all these great places:www.atozhistorypage.comwww.beyondthebigscreen.comClick here to support Beyond the Big Screen!https://www.subscribestar.com/beyondthebigscreenhttps://www.patreon.com/beyondthebigscreenClick to Subscribe:https://www.spreaker.com/show/4926576/episodes/feedemail: steve@atozhistorypage.comwww.beyondthebigscreen.comhttps://www.patreon.com/historyofthepapacyParthenon Podcast Network Home:parthenonpodcast.comOn Social Media: https://www.facebook.com/groups/atozhistorypagehttps://www.facebook.com/HistoryOfThePapacyPodcasthttps://twitter.com/atozhistoryMusic Provided by:"Crossing the Chasm" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 Licensehttp://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/Begin Transcript:Thank you again for listening to Beyond the Big Screen podcast. We are a member of the Parthenon Podcast network. Of course, a big thanks goes out to Simon Heffer author of: High Minds: The Victorians and the Birth of Modern Britain. Links to learn more about Simon Heffer and his book can in the Show Notes. You can now support beyond the big screen on Patreon. By joining on Patreon and Subscribe star, you help keep Beyond the Big Screen going and get many great benefits. Go to patreon.com/beyondthebigscreen to learn more.A special thanks goes out to Alex at the Executive Producer level!Another way to support Beyond the big screen is to leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. These reviews really help me know what you think of the show and help other people learn about Beyond the Big screen. More about the Parthenon Podcast Network featuring great shows like: Richard Lim’s This American President Podcast can be found at Parthenonpodcast.com. You can learn more about Beyond the Big Screen, great movies and stories so great they should be movies on various social media platforms by searching for A to z history. Links to all this and more can be found at beyond the big screen dot com. I thank you for joining me again, Beyond the big Screen.

Today we talk with author J. Budziszewski, scholar and professor of Philosophy at the University of Texas at Austin about his new book: How and How Not to Be Happy. J Budziszewski takes us through his journey to happiness and in what ways we should define the meaning of happiness.Learn More About our Guest:Author J. Budziszewskihttps://www.regnery.com/9781684511075/how-and-how-not-to-be-happy/You can learn more about Beyond the Big Screen and subscribe at all these great places:www.atozhistorypage.comwww.beyondthebigscreen.comClick here to support Beyond the Big Screen!https://www.subscribestar.com/beyondthebigscreenhttps://www.patreon.com/beyondthebigscreenClick to Subscribe:https://www.spreaker.com/show/4926576/episodes/feedemail: steve@atozhistorypage.comwww.beyondthebigscreen.comhttps://www.patreon.com/historyofthepapacyParthenon Podcast Network Home:parthenonpodcast.comOn Social Media: https://www.facebook.com/groups/atozhistorypagehttps://www.facebook.com/HistoryOfThePapacyPodcasthttps://twitter.com/atozhistoryMusic Provided by:"Crossing the Chasm" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 Licensehttp://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/Image Credits:Begin Transcript:, [00:00:00] this is beyond the big screen podcast with your host, Steve Guerra. Thank you again for listening to beyond the big screen podcast. Of course, a big thanks goes out to Jay Buddha. Shefsky author of how and how not to be happy links to learn more about Jay Buddha Shefsky can be found in the show notes.You can now support beyond the big screen on Patrion by joining on Patrion. You help keep beyond the big screen going and get many great benefits. Go over to patrion.com/beyond the big screen to learn more. And of course a special, thanks goes out to our patron, Alex, at the executive producer level, we are a member of the Parthenon podcast network.You can learn more about great shows like professor James [00:01:00] Earley's key data's of American history podcast. By going over to Parthenon podcast.com you of course can learn more about beyond the big screen, great movies and stories. So great. They should be movies by. Going over to our website, a twosie history page.com.I thank you again for joining me behind the big screen.

Coming Soon on Beyond the Big Screen!You can learn more about Beyond the Big Screen and subscribe at all these great places:www.atozhistorypage.comwww.beyondthebigscreen.comClick here to support Beyond the Big Screen!https://www.subscribestar.com/beyondthebigscreenhttps://www.patreon.com/beyondthebigscreenClick to Subscribe:https://www.spreaker.com/show/4926576/episodes/feedemail: steve@atozhistorypage.comwww.beyondthebigscreen.comhttps://www.patreon.com/historyofthepapacyParthenon Podcast Network Home:parthenonpodcast.comOn Social Media: https://www.facebook.com/groups/atozhistorypagehttps://www.facebook.com/HistoryOfThePapacyPodcasthttps://twitter.com/atozhistoryMusic Provided by:"Crossing the Chasm" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 Licensehttp://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/

Today we are joined by Shawn Warwick, host of The American History Podcast to look at the 1941 Japanese attack on the United States at Pearl Harbor. We will discuss the infamous incident from many different and unconventional angles. Shawn will also share his views on the movie 2001 Pearl Harbor and how he attended the premiere of the film on the USS John Stennis aircraft carrier!Learn More About our Guest:Shawn Warwick, host of The American History Podcastwww.theamericanhistorypodcast.comYou can learn more about Beyond the Big Screen and subscribe at all these great places:www.atozhistorypage.comwww.beyondthebigscreen.comClick here to support Beyond the Big Screen!https://www.subscribestar.com/beyondthebigscreenhttps://www.patreon.com/beyondthebigscreenClick to Subscribe:https://www.spreaker.com/show/4926576/episodes/feedemail: steve@atozhistorypage.comwww.beyondthebigscreen.comhttps://www.patreon.com/historyofthepapacyParthenon Podcast Network Home:parthenonpodcast.comOn Social Media: https://www.facebook.com/groups/atozhistorypagehttps://www.facebook.com/HistoryOfThePapacyPodcasthttps://twitter.com/atozhistoryMusic Provided by:"Crossing the Chasm" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 Licensehttp://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/Image Credits:By Kogo - Own work, GFDL, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=3936577Begin Transcript:Thank you again for listening to Beyond the Big Screen podcast. We are a member of the Parthenon Podcast network. Of course, a big thanks goes out to Shawn Warwick, host of The American History Podcast. Links to learn more about Shawn and his podcast can be found at www.theamericanhistorypodcast.com or in the Show Notes. You can now support beyond the big screen on Patreon. By joining on Patreon and Subscribe star, you help keep Beyond the Big Screen going and get many great benefits. Go to patreon.com/beyondthebigscreen to learn more.A special thanks goes out to Alex at the Executive Producer level!Another way to support Beyond the big screen is to leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. These reviews really help me know what you think of the show and help other people learn about Beyond the Big screen. More about the Parthenon Podcast Network featuring great shows like: Josh Cohen’s Eyewitness History can be found at Parthenonpodcast.com. You can learn more about Beyond the Big Screen, great movies and stories so great they should be movies on various social media platforms by searching for A to z history. Links to all this and more can be found at beyond the big screen dot com. I thank you for joining me again, Beyond the big Screen.

Today we are joined again by Professor James Early of the Key Battles of American History Podcast to talk about the 1998 World War 2 film, The Thin Red Line. This is a controversial movie. It completely breaks the commonly held ideas about what a war movie should be. Is The Thin Red Line what a movie about war really should be? Learn More About our Guest:James Early, host of Key Battles of American History PodcastKeybattlesofamericanhistory.comYou can learn more about Beyond the Big Screen and subscribe at all these great places:www.atozhistorypage.comwww.beyondthebigscreen.comClick here to support Beyond the Big Screen!https://www.subscribestar.com/beyondthebigscreenhttps://www.patreon.com/beyondthebigscreenClick to Subscribe:https://www.spreaker.com/show/4926576/episodes/feedemail: steve@atozhistorypage.comwww.beyondthebigscreen.comhttps://www.patreon.com/historyofthepapacyParthenon Podcast Network Home:parthenonpodcast.comOn Social Media: https://www.facebook.com/groups/atozhistorypagehttps://www.facebook.com/HistoryOfThePapacyPodcasthttps://twitter.com/atozhistoryMusic Provided by:"Crossing the Chasm" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 Licensehttp://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/Image Credits:Fair use, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?curid=3154194Begin Transcript:Thank you again for listening to Beyond the Big Screen podcast. We are a member of the Parthenon Podcast network. Of course, a big thanks goes out to James Early of the Key Battles of American History podcast. Links to learn more about James and his podcast can be found at keybattlesofamericanhistory.com or in the Show Notes. You can now support beyond the big screen on Patreon. By joining on Patreon and Subscribe star, you help keep Beyond the Big Screen going and get many great benefits. Go to patreon.com/beyondthebigscreen to learn more.A special thanks goes out to Alex at the Executive Producer level!Another way to support Beyond the big screen is to leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. These reviews really help me know what you think of the show and help other people learn about Beyond the Big screen. More about the Parthenon Podcast Network featuring great shows like: our guest James Early’s Key Battles of American History Podcast can be found at Parthenonpodcast.com. You can learn more about Beyond the Big Screen, great movies and stories so great they should be movies on various social media platforms by searching for A to z history. Links to all this and more can be found at beyond the big screen dot com. I thank you for joining me again, Beyond the big Screen.

Coming Soon on Beyond the Big Screen!You can learn more about Beyond the Big Screen and subscribe at all these great places:www.atozhistorypage.comwww.beyondthebigscreen.comClick here to support Beyond the Big Screen!https://www.subscribestar.com/beyondthebigscreenhttps://www.patreon.com/beyondthebigscreenClick to Subscribe:https://www.spreaker.com/show/4926576/episodes/feedemail: steve@atozhistorypage.comwww.beyondthebigscreen.comhttps://www.patreon.com/historyofthepapacyParthenon Podcast Network Home:parthenonpodcast.comOn Social Media: https://www.facebook.com/groups/atozhistorypagehttps://www.facebook.com/HistoryOfThePapacyPodcasthttps://twitter.com/atozhistoryMusic Provided by:"Crossing the Chasm" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 Licensehttp://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/

Title: A Penny Saved, A Penny Earned and the Last Bet of Benjamin FranklinDescription: Today we are joined by Michael Meyer, author of Benjamin Franklin’s Last Bet. Benjamin Franklin died in 1790, but his legacy lives on to this day. One particularly important part of his legacy is a trust he left to the people of Boston and Philadelphia. This trust grew financially, but like much of Benjamin Franklin’s history, it is not well known.Original Publication Date: Learn More About our Guest:Michael Meyer, Author of Benjamin Franklin’s Last Bethttps://inmanchuria.com/You can learn more about Beyond the Big Screen and subscribe at all these great places:www.atozhistorypage.comwww.beyondthebigscreen.comClick here to support Beyond the Big Screen!https://www.subscribestar.com/beyondthebigscreenhttps://www.patreon.com/beyondthebigscreenClick to Subscribe:https://www.spreaker.com/show/4926576/episodes/feedemail: steve@atozhistorypage.comwww.beyondthebigscreen.comhttps://www.patreon.com/historyofthepapacyParthenon Podcast Network Home:parthenonpodcast.comOn Social Media: https://www.facebook.com/groups/atozhistorypagehttps://www.facebook.com/HistoryOfThePapacyPodcasthttps://twitter.com/atozhistoryMusic Provided by:"Crossing the Chasm" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 Licensehttp://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/Image Credits:Begin Transcript:Thank you again for listening to Beyond the Big Screen podcast. We are a member of the Parthenon Podcast network. Of course, a big thanks goes out to Michael Meyer, author of Benjamin Franklin’s Last Bet. Links to learn more about Michael Meyer and his books can be found at his website inmanchuria.com or in the Show Notes. You can now support beyond the big screen on Patreon. By joining on Patreon and Subscribe star, you help keep Beyond the Big Screen going and get many great benefits. Go to patreon.com/beyondthebigscreen to learn more.A special thanks goes out to Alex at the Executive Producer level!Another way to support Beyond the big screen is to leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. These reviews really help me know what you think of the show and help other people learn about Beyond the Big screen. More about the Parthenon Podcast Network featuring great shows like: Scott Rank’s History Unplugged Podcast can be found at Parthenonpodcast.com. You can learn more about Beyond the Big Screen, great movies and stories so great they should be movies on various social media platforms by searching for A to z history. Links to all this and more can be found at beyond the big screen dot com. I thank you for joining me again, Beyond the big Screen.Benjamin Franklin[00:00:00] I am very excited to have Michael Meyer on the show today to talk about, uh, one of the largest and most charismatic characters in American history. Benjamin Franklin, Michael Meyer is author of Benjamin Franklins. Last bet. The favorite founding fathers, divisive death, and during afterlife and blueprint for American prosperity.Michael is the author of numerous books and articles. He was a Fulbright scholar and a professor. And is a professor of nonfiction writing at the university of Pittsburgh. Thank you, Michael so much for joining me to talk about the amazing life and afterlife of Benjamin Franklin. It's an honor to be here.Thanks for having me. I have a, kind of a personal story about some of the things you've talked about. I lived in Philadelphia for a while and I would walk by Benjamin Franklin's grave almost [00:01:00] every day to meet my. For a work and it just almost became like a normal thing. I think a good place to start is what's maybe the standard telling if you had to tell somebody who's maybe not from the U S and give them a broad overview of who is Benjamin Franklin.That's a great question. He was large and contain multitudes. Um, you know, you can divide his, like he lived quite a long time, you know, he's, he, he straddled the 18th century, so he was 84 years old and the first 42 years of his life are devoted to business and he's, you know, he would never call himself self-made he was an autodidact for sure.Uh, you know, apprentice in a print shop and in his father's candle making shop in Boston fled his brother. Got down to Philadelphia on a boat. Um, and then, you know, became the legendary Benjamin Franklin worked as a printer, um, benefited greatly from his wife's, uh, assistance and her [00:02:00] family. Um, and as he was being an entrepreneur in Philadelphia with his print shop and starting the Pennsylvania Gazette newspaper, which became the.The newspaper and the colonies and poor Richard's Almanac. Um, he's also tinkering, he's an inveterate tinkerer. He's always looking to improve things around his house. Um, he invents things as you know, various as, uh, the lightning rod, the catheter. Swim fins. Um, he invents a musical instrument called the harmonium.He perfects the odometer. And I think one thing really interesting about him is that he refused, there was no patent office at that time, but he could have applied for a exclusive commercial license for his inventions, but he felt very strongly that as we benefit from the technology, others. Others should benefit from our own technology.And so I think we could credit him as a forerunner of the open source movement as well. So at age 42, he retires from business [00:03:00] and he decides to devote himself almost wholly to philanthropy and starts a great number of charitable causes that you walking around Philadelphia could still see. Uh, the Pennsylvania hospital is still there.The Philadelphia academy, which became the university of Pennsylvania is still there. The American philosophical society is still there. The great library next to independence hall, and then find the last act of Franklin's life is he becomes a diplomat. Um, he spent nearly 30 years of his life as she is his older years overseas living in either London or in Paris.Uh, the latter time, you know, lobbying on behalf to try to attract French support for. Uh, the war, um, and then, you know, his last dying act, he had two great. Penn strokes to end his life. The first was he presented the first petition for the abolishment of slavery to the Senate. Franklin was a slave owner.His family held up to seven slaves, uh, that worked in his print shop and around the house, um, uniquely among founders. Old people in [00:04:00] general, he became more progressive as he aged, um, and realized that that, that his slave owning was, uh, a mark on his, on his legacy. And he wanted to repudiate that. And of course, after fighting for Liberty, it was hypocritical to say, well, we should still have the slave trade in the liberated United States.That was one thing he did. The second thing he did, which we're going to talk about today is he added a final codicil to his will. Um, uh, a dying bet as. On the survival of working class trades people for the next 200 years, it's really interesting that he was born in Boston in the early 17 hundreds. And then he moved to Philadelphia and those are two areas that had really stark different, uh, cultures and just everything.It's almost like a moving to a foreign country in a lot of ways for him. One made Franklin move from. From Boston [00:05:00] to Philadelphia, he was in denture to his older brother and he hated the work he wanted to get out of it so badly. And so a couple of years into his indenture dump in dentures, um, he fled, he ran away.It was illegal at time, but he still broke, uh, the bond. Uh, he hoped to go to New York city. That was the thought in New York was smaller than Philadelphia at the time. Um, Broadway was still a cattle trail if, if, if it even existed at that time, but he ended up continuing onward to Philadelphia, which you're right.These are polar opposites. These towns, you know, Boston known for its academies, um, for its genteel society, very old England sort of sore, you know, Puritan driven. Whereas Philadelphia was a bustling. And became the largest city in the United States and the colonial America as well while Franklin was living there.And then in the United States, much more diverse, uh, much more entrepreneurial in spirit, you know, in the book, I talk about how you can [00:06:00] trace a lot of the men who knew Franklin's father, you know, a hundred years ago, those descendants were the new mayors of Boston. You know, the Quincy's Quincy, the fourth and Quincy.Whereas in Philadelphia, you know, the person they elected to serve as mayor 16 times was a person who, uh, professed hated learning and had apprentice as a Hatter. It was just a very, very different, um, a very, very different backdrop. You're right. And I think had, had Franklin stayed in Boston. He couldn't have become the entrepreneur inventor.Um, and diplomat, you know, sort of statesman that he became, he also spent some time in London. What did, uh, what was he doing in London? How did he get to London? And what did that maybe add to his character? I think, you know, how did they get to London the first time around? It was really carelessness when he was a young man that had, had landed in Philadelphia.

Title: Settling Grudges with Turkeys and More from Early American HistoryDescription: Today we are joined by Sarah Tanksalvala of the Rejects and Revolutionaries The Origins of America Podcast to talk about some of the strangest and most surprising episodes from pre-Revolutionary American History. Sarah will tell us Gunpowder Plot organizers, the last battle of the English Civil War and other fascinating and less known facts of early American history.Original Publication Date: Learn More About our Guest:Sarah Tanksalvala host of Rejects and Revolutionaries: The Origins of AmericaPodcasthttps://americanhistorypodcast.net/You can learn more about Beyond the Big Screen and subscribe at all these great places:www.atozhistorypage.comwww.beyondthebigscreen.comClick here to support Beyond the Big Screen!https://www.subscribestar.com/beyondthebigscreenhttps://www.patreon.com/beyondthebigscreenClick to Subscribe:https://www.spreaker.com/show/4926576/episodes/feedemail: steve@atozhistorypage.comwww.beyondthebigscreen.comhttps://www.patreon.com/historyofthepapacyParthenon Podcast Network Home:parthenonpodcast.comOn Social Media: https://www.facebook.com/groups/atozhistorypagehttps://www.facebook.com/HistoryOfThePapacyPodcasthttps://twitter.com/atozhistoryMusic Provided by:"Crossing the Chasm" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 Licensehttp://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/Image Credits:Begin Transcript:Thank you again for listening to Beyond the Big Screen podcast. 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You can learn more about Beyond the Big Screen, great movies and stories so great they should be movies on various social media platforms by searching for A to z history. Links to all this and more can be found at beyond the big screen dot com. I thank you for joining me again, Beyond the big Screen.[00:00:00] Today, we're joined by a very special guest and beyond the big screen alumni, Sarah tank, Savala of the rejects and revolutionary American history podcasts Sara's podcast tells the story of American history from its very beginnings. These are all stories and events that are now widely known and are all, many of them are definitely stranger than fiction.So you hear people talk about early American history and their. You know, talking about the revolutionary war era and it's just like, no, no, it started so much before that and all that, this was going on, like all these debates and all of this, all these struggles were going on at the same time. And it was just like, or in that earlier time than it was just amazing.We're going to do this as sort of a top 10 list, the top 10 surprising facts about the 17th [00:01:00] century American history and moments that would definitely be stranger than fiction and deserve their own movie treatments. So who, what is your top? Your number 10. So we're going from 10 to one. What's your number 10 surprising fact about American history early colonial American history.So, um, my 10th one is just the life of Pocahontas, his son, Thomas Rolfe. Um, we always think about, um, the story of Pocahontas in John, Ralph and John Smith and all of that that went on, but he actually lived this really interesting. Um, himself, and we don't know that much about him, but it's like through him that some 10,000 estimated people are descended from Pocahontas today.And, um, what we do know about him, it's really interesting though. Cause he was, um, so he was born, well, he was born in Virginia, but he grew up in [00:02:00] England. Um, Like John, Ralph and Pocahontas sit gone back to England and she had died there in 16, 17, and he had gone back to Virginia and he died five years later.Um, and so he ended up being raised in England by an uncle of his. And then he ended up and then when he was 20, he moved back to America. And so he was sort of this half Palatan Indian who was raised in England and ended up going back to Virginia. And, um, I find that to be just fascinating to start with.And then he ended up, um, he ended up meeting his uncle. He requested permission to meet with his power Putin uncle OB chonga knew who was the orchestrator of the 1622 massacre and of another massacre in 1643 or 44. When that second massacre happened in 1644. W [00:03:00] Thomas Ralf ended up actually leading troops against the power button for the English.And so he ended up being this really sort of a fluent leading. Member of Virginia society, but he still clearly had enough, um, connection to his pallet and ancestry that he developed those relationships. But when the two sides went to war, he had some decisions to make. And I would've loved to know like what, you know, what went into those decisions, but we don't know that about him, but I think he'd be a fascinating person.To know more about, or to even imagine more about in some sort of a biography or biopic. So that's our, that's your number 10 now, number nine, you have a next one. The battle of the Severn. Yes. So that was really interesting because that, I mean, you could make an argument, maybe not the strongest argument, but you can make an argument that it was the last battle of the English [00:04:00] civil war, because, you know, Over the course of the English civil war, the English government has been, um, completely overturned.The King's been beheaded and then. The question comes, like what happens to each of these colonies and Maryland in particular was an extremely controversial colony because it had, um, well, it had a very strong Catholic foundation, which was really, really not liked in England at the time, especially by the Puritans who had gotten control in the English, civil war and Maryland always sort of, they always had to tread this.Middle ground of like, not being Catholic, but being tolerant towards Catholics and. The question was, would this be enough by the time that the English civil war had ended? And there was a clear political divide in addition to the religious divide within Maryland, there've been increasing numbers of [00:05:00] Puritans in Maryland, especially after they got sort of kicked out of Virginia, Maryland gave them a place to stay, um, in the name of religious toleration, which became the sort of thing that.That Maryland champion, the idea that Maryland championed in these early years. And so by the time that all of this has happened, the question became like would the new government of England, um, recognize the old government of Maryland, which was under this Catholic guy, uh, Lord Baltimore. And. In the time when that question was being asked, there were two groups of people who there were all these things happening.There were two groups of people who ended up going. To, um, essentially to war with each other. They had one big battle in 1655 where like, um, 400 people showed up and that's in a [00:06:00] colony, which at this point in time was, we don't know exactly what the population was, but it would be between sort of a quarter and a fifth of the male population turning out to fight in this battle.And ultimately, uh, ultimately the Puritans had a lot more military experience and they have a lot more organization and they had a lot more resources and they ended up just completely destroying the sort of Anglican Catholic Presbyterian, um, group. And, um, and then the question, the question still wasn't answered.And then the Pearson's ended up just really, um, they ended up behaving sort of non admirably at the end of this battle. They ended up, uh, illegally executing for prisoners and they had sentenced 10 more to be illegally executed, but [00:07:00] then they, um, they, some people, some of the soldiers who had just come over from England and didn't have as much of a personal investment in the fight and some of the women of the colonies.Ask them to back down because a lot of this, the thing is a lot of this was really personal for people. Like they had known each other and they had had these animosities building up for 20 years at these, at this point. And, and so you can, it just, it went really downhill, but I think. How much the English civil war affected America is, is always something that I never really understood very well.And listening to your podcast, it really, there was such a connection between the two, but then there's also like you were saying that, that on the ground too, that these people hated each other personally, but then they have all these gripes too, that are the bigger picture gripes. So it's really, it's a really fascinating [00:08:00] interplay.Oh, it is it's, it's amazing how much it it's amazing. So much of what happened in America. So much of what we think about as being American would never have, um, would never have happened at all. If it weren't for the English civil war, like the Puritans wouldn't have, um, set up in new England as strongly as they did.

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